Don't be an ass. Shit, that's been the right's stock in trade since 9/11. ‘Haters, that's what they are, just haters!’ ‘A story of how hate destroys the hater.’ ‘Haters will hate these tracks, for essentially the same reasons.’ ‘More now on the suspect, an alleged killer, but pretty clearly a proven hater.’ ‘Sounds like a bunch of jealous haters to me’ ‘He actually called me a hater… (Speak) They have something to say to every Negro (Yeah) who has passively accepted the evil system of segregation and who has stood on the sidelines in a mighty struggle for justice. Would you prefer to use that instead? Jek, I'm not saying that the definitions of "liberal" and "conservative" haven't changed. 1. Haters overcompensate this aspect — the deeper they loved, the stronger they hate. cribcage: Oh. "As the barbs flew, Bush seemed to take the heat in stride, smiling at times, giving Lowery a standing ovation and even pulling the civil rights leader in for a bear hug. They have something to say to a federal government that has compromised with the undemocratic practices of southern Dixiecrats (Yeah) and the blatant hypocrisy of right-wing northern Republicans. This thread is about the GOP reaction to her funeral (gee, i wonder if they're using the funeral for political purposes as well just maybe???) As for class, Carter and Lowery graduated decades ago, so of course they don't have any class. Truth to power. We could be gone tomorrow. Wow. And perhaps you should also like to think of Caesar without ever having to consider the existence of, "I'm glad republicans don't call MLK a liberal.". amberglow, what do you think of Bill setting Hillary up for an ovation? Or they want to be you. MLK and Coretta have meant a whole lot more to this country than what petty bullshit happened at the funeral. They either see you as a threat. You could try and find out why you differ and address that difference through dialogue. 3. Should anyone be surprised that the rare time Bush appears in front of an audience that is not carefully screened there is some pent up hostility? You get a time-out for lack of reading comprehension. Take a more constructive approach with the list of wise and insightful quotes on hate below. Read more quotes from Madeleine L'Engle. What on earth do you call. I'd say that it was in oblique recognition that these ceremonies are intrinsically, Rephrasing what I said earlier.... a bland, politically-correct funeral for Coretta Scott King would have been a. Share this quote: Like Quote. Friends Who Liked This Quote. We're on a mission of turning inspiring quotes into beautiful wallpapers. Neither of yesterday's labels are accurate today. Besides tha,t most of the preceding comments are a load of horseshit. Sorry if you don't like that. The posters at MeFi are Democratic Party operatives, therefore it is fair to compare their influence with that of Karl Rove and the GOP. Hate is never good, but it’s understandably felt by some toward people such as child abusers, perpetrators of violent crimes, terrorists and some who are just plain evil. But, of course, the noble tradition of radicalism in this country now invites as much hate as the once-noble tradition of liberalism. Hate Hurts the Hater | Good Morning Gratitude. MLK and Coretta were all about telling the truth to power. God ... showing hater and hated as equals, really helps."..." This info is very valuable. No Hate Lyrics: Tell me why they all hatin on me / Cause it's God Over Money and my whole team / I'm banged out like Yeshua is my OG / And I don't really know why they be low key / Logo on my Haters are people who (still) care, but they do so far too much. This thread is brought to you by Standard Partisan Rhetoric 'R Us. It's not as much about you as it is about them. "We're angry at [the fact that Bush attended the funeral]." I'd like to see you back up this assertion. 1. Lowery's remarks was his claim that "we know now" that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. You asinine political correctness and obtuseness is patently offensive. Here's what I find amazing about views like cribcage's and other people trying to label all these eulogies a "liberal screw up": sorry about that bad typing ... should read: Jek, you know what Relay was saying. I cringe at the thought that I might actually hate someone and subscribe to Madeleine L’Engle’s thoughts that “Hate hurts the hater more’n the hated.”. Famous Quotes about Hate. There are those who caused me great grief and lots of pain for who forgiveness is not 100%. ing, hates v.tr. Everything is political. They hate anyone who gives hope to the people they and their corporate godfathers use as human doormats. However with some I am uncertain if complete forgiveness is possible. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated. Hate is a strong word. We can say that together, too. Don't miss out on our next weekly batch. This is just Wellstone redux. 98. ... resolved to try his hand once more by stirring up fresh quarrels and disturbances. There was I thinking they kept winning because they rig elections, lie through their teeth, do their best to keep the electorate in fear and ignorance, get all the money because they're in cahoots with Corporate America at the expense of the averae citizen, are institutionally corrupt and think nothing - absolutely nothing - of smearing all those who disagree with them through a carefully created network of lying, whining, patronising bastiches like O'Reilly, etc who carefully spin republican talking points whilst claiming to be independent journalists who tell it like it is, are "fair and balanced" and so forth. As nouns the difference between hurt and hate is that hurt is an emotional or psychological hurt (humiliation or bad experience) while hate is an object of hatred. in my link above, there's a quote by Ms. King, justgary---and there have been many quotes and links posted already about her life. So rather than be happy they make a point of exposing a flaw in that person. This and all discussions like it minimize their importance. The only type of person who would say, when asked if MLK is a liberal, "Well, I would like to think MLK is above partisan labeling; I would call him a great human being," is the type who is trying to exploit MLK. This message of hatred is used to protect themselves from further hurt but it does not heal the hurt that has already been done to them. “People who hate you because of a mere jealousy over your success hurt themselves in disguise. No. Inappropirate? Basically, the argument the right gives seems to boil down to "well you shouldn't have brought up civil rights abuses at the funeral of a civil rights leader.". 3. I think they’re great minded, but choose to sell … February 8, 2006 3:53 PM Subscribe I would argue that King was a radical, albeit on the liberal side of the spectrum. To be disinclined (to do something) out of politeness or a need to apologize: I hate to interrupt, but can I ask you a quick question? hater definition: 1. a person who says or writes unpleasant things about someone or criticizes their achievements…. « Older Valentines for Perfect Strangers   |   That's Seargant Pug to You, Dammit Newer », This thread has been archived and is closed to new comments. I am grateful to know the difference! But bravo, Jek, you've proven yourself an excellent troll. This time. I'm beginning to suspect that if JekPorkins were any more deliberately obtuse s/he'd be ripped straight from the pages of Euclid's. It’s a healthy sort of turning a blind eye and putting those old pains up high on a shelf and forgetting about those caused them. This website exists to break down the barriers between people, to extend a weblog beyond just one person, and to foster discussion among its members. I wish Bush had sent Cheney. Hate definition is - intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury. Don’t hate them back because they may also become like you one day and it will mean hurting that image you carry!” It is a sign of a guilty conscience for Bushites to rail at Jimmy Carter for mentioning this at the recent memorial; the reaction is that of Claudius to Hamlet's play. To think that MeFi somehow is part of the Democratic machine is retarded. So if I dislike someone a lot, I in fact hate them. Definitions of hate on-line are: to dislike intensely or passionately; feel extreme aversion for or extreme hostility toward; detest; feel antipathy towards. I’ve developed a different meaning for “hate” – an acronym of the mindset you need to counter this destructive emotional assault on your mind and body. 9. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. I have come to the understanding that most who hurt others have been hurt themselves, often as children, and end up passing along their pain. If hate can be taught, so can love. Everyone else knows and accepts that MLK was a lib. Fuck that, you get a yellow flag for wilfull misrepresentation of the underlying "issue," and that's a cheap tactic, ass. 8. Find another word for hate. So, take a deep breath and accept it. Well sonofsamiam, since you dismissed my comment with virtually zero thought I hardly think you are the most analytical of people so we'll just chalk that up to a difference of opinion whilst it's still allowed, mkay? Didn't the Democrats learn their lesson from the Wellstone funeral? Jimmy Carter & Reverend Lowery: NO CLASS. It’s easier said than done though, the whole “accepting” your haters thing. Kettle. If you're one of those hurt by it, maybe you ought to re-examine what it is YOU stand for. Before I started this website I had a conversation with a friend of mine who is a very successful blogger and who has more haters than I have hair on my head. Who's using her life and death to make points now? Unless you are in favor of rule by king or other dictator you are a Liberal. Sounds like they sent Coretta up the way she would have wanted? Should we even wonder why so many in the GOP were made uncomfortable by the funeral? "Hate is too great a burden to bear. I've been wondering about that, Malor. The psychology of a hater is to impose their self-hate on others. On preview-- I was about to post the same picture kirkaracha did. – Coretta Scott King. This was an unparallelled opportunity for Bush to be forced into a situation where he didn't have a pre-selected. Postroad, there's a difference between insulting a dead person's memory by casting aspersions on his character at the funeral and honoring a hero by continuing her work even at her funeral. Oh for fuck's sake you guys. Hate has a way of bringing out the worst in people. I don't believe that JekPorkins' primary concern is MLK's legacy. To see what your friends thought of this quote, please sign up! One possible reading might be that someone who is liberal would allow someone else to have an alternate viewpoint or ideology and respect that. Hate is never good, but it’s understandably felt by some toward people such as child abusers, perpetrators of violent crimes, terrorists and some who are just plain evil. I first became aware of it while reading reviews of Good Night and Good Luck. It takes way more effort to shell out hate then it does to allow love to flow freely in our lives. This is because you carry an image of who they wish they had become. On review, gesamtkunstwerk said pretty much the same thing. Check out that video if you haven't seen it. At the JFK service someone should have reminded the audience and America that screwing Maryln Monroe in adultery was not a good thing to have done. “ It was the perfect time and place--and way--to celebrate an activist's life. Fine. 2. Not all insecure people are haters, but all haters are insecure people. Do you deliberately look to start fights or what? Give examples too. Let's all say it together. Synonym Discussion of hate. Dr King, on his wishes for his own eulogy, from his sermon: I'm amazed so many of y'all turned out to express approval for what occurred at that funeral. They say to each of us, black and white alike, that we must substitute courage for caution. Non-asshole? My only problem with Rev. Otherwise, with ordinary people there’s an adage that goes, someone most often hates you for one of three reasons. Just for the record, anyone speaking at my funeral is free -- nay. In this Administration it's funny how the "time and the place for those things" is never "now.". and the continuing disdain shown afflicted African-Americans even today, as in the Gulf. I just never thought of strong aversion as being hate. Republicans are evil. Hate is too great a burden to bear. Coretta Scott King Hate can give you that sexual flush and adrenalin rush that many crave. Today. Yes, cribcage. Kind of annoying, IMO. To feel dislike or distaste for: hates washing dishes; hates to get up early. To feel strong dislike for or hostility toward: rivals who hate each other. Was that a moment of apolitical reverence for the Kings and their legacy or not? This is because you carry an image of who they wish they had become. Where does the phrase come from? At this point I really don’t think I hate anyone and readily admit I have at times confused hurt with hate. Don't look at hate as a reflection of yourself and your work, but don't use it as a crutch either. Thanks ericb, I had no idea that was the source. Learn more details and find out ways to participate. Either way, I’m on your mind.” Anonymous. Black. are those who care the most about what other people think. Ya'll fuckin' serious, or can ya'll just drop the affected southern vernacular and step out of character now? “Hate hurts the hater more'n the hated.” ― Madeline L'Engle tags: hate. What you shouldn't do is throw cheap insults and deliberately misread the oppositions words so that you can act like you are channeling the holy spirit of liberty and goodliness. All posts copyright their original authors. As verbs the difference between hurt and hate is that hurt is to be painful while hate is to dislike intensely or greatly. See more. I wonder how much Dexter can profit by licensing that quote (before it goes out of copyright anyway). Huh? Pinko? Chasfile, you certainly have a lot to say for a post that you deem "terrible". Yes, justgary, you're right. If it was the latter, he's 5 years too late. Didn't the Democrats learn their lesson from the Wellstone funeral? more. We are taught to hate the enemy — meaning anyone different than us — which leaves little room for vulnerability and an exploration of hate through empathic discourse and understanding. Don’t hate them back because they may also become like you one day and it will mean hurting that image you carry!” – Israelmore Ayivor Join 6,466 readers in helping fund MetaFilter. Really, many people have abandoned the word in favor of the less demonized "progressive." – Robert Elliott Gonzales Like drugs and alcohol, it can lead to seeking more and more violent forms of it. Right now. pyramid termite is correct. Hatred is bitter-sweet as it inflates the ego and makes you feel very superior and self-righteous against the thing or one that is hated, only breeding further pain. There is no one I can think of who I lack the intention of forgiveness for in my heart. Emotional scars stand in the way. “Hate hurts the hater more’n the hated.” – Madeleine L’Engle. If you self-identify as a liberal and you are telling JekPorkins to shut up then I think you need to think long and hard about what liberal means. The new advanced search interface organizes the results more sensibly. So, you're saying that Carter's statement, "we only have to recall the colour of the faces of those in Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi who are most devastated by Katrina to know that there are not yet equal opportunities for all Americans," was inappropriate? Another word for hate. Career law enforcement professionals on the payroll of the U S governement subjected the King family--including Ms. Coretta--to wiretapping and electronic surveillance throughout Dr. King's career. They say to us that we must be concerned not merely about who murdered them, but about the system, the way of life, the philosophy which produced the murderers. Why are you here? They have something to say to every politician [Audience:] (Yeah) who has fed his constituents with the stale bread of hatred and the spoiled meat of racism. - Coretta Scott King. I am no fan of the Bush movement, and I can see how one would argue it was the place, but it's not something I would probably have done. If you support non-violence and peace like MLK then you shouldn't feel the need to heap abuse on other people of differing viewpoints, you should talk calmly and respectfully. But, you know, keep working the refs or whatever. Hate masks personal insecurities. Using what was said at a funeral to score political points is even worse than saying something at an activist's funeral, in case you didn't realize, politically speaking. 10. The best and complete answer wins 10 points. 2. Or, to quote Frederick Douglas: "Agitate, agitate, agitate.". When you call MLK a "liberal," you're just trying to align him with your political team, and I think that's creepy. 1. Next to meeting somebody who admires someone we admire, we all like to meet somebody who hates someone we hate. The Bush administration and the Republican party for the last 6 years have almost done nothing but politicize funerals and death. MetaFilter is a weblog that anyone can contribute a link or a comment to. In 1997, Will Smith introduced a new word into the American lexicon: "hater." Don’t add more reasons for them to be upset by ... to the blatant hatred that is going on. I have fantasies about watching that man have a heart attack. In his hit, Gettin' Jiggy wit It, he rapped that he had "no love for the haters," because they were, implicitly, motivated by envy.In 2001, the R&B group 3LW, in their song Playas Gon' Play, provided more context for understanding haters by telling us "playas gon' play [and] haters gon' hate." Hatred is an intense repulsion that creates a mirror effect in that it attracts the person back to the thing hated in order to be repulsed by it over and over. The "not right time or place" is just a distractor that was evidently used to derail attention from what was said and by who during the cerimony. “I don’t think haters are small-minded; it’s more tragic than that. ..."but it does show that George W. Bush is appealing as a leader to those Americans who harbor greater anti-black prejudice." Learn more. Hate definition, to dislike intensely or passionately; feel extreme aversion for or extreme hostility toward; detest: to hate the enemy; to hate bigotry. 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